After the Cut: Unfiltered and Never-Before-Heard Moments

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Zac Miller:

Hello. Welcome to the Kim Gravel Show. I am Zac, the show's producer. I'm so glad you're here. Thanks for joining us this week. You'll see Kim in a minute. Like I promised, it's still the Kim Gravel Show. I haven't taken the show over yet, but she asked me to introduce this show today because we're doing something a little bit different.

Zac Miller:

Kim asked me to share the best behind the scenes guest moments that we've had over the last couple years. And I am so excited to do this with you because these are such great moments that we didn't have a room to really cut into the main show. So we've just been collecting, collecting them and waiting until our moment that we can share this amazing content with you. Because what basically happens is when interviews end with a guest, we usually chat with the guest a little bit. Like we usually talk through some of the stuff that we talked about in the interview and we get a little deeper sometimes. And sometimes those behind the scenes chats, like after we finish recording the real episode, are actually better than the episode itself. So I've hung on to all of those and this week I'm going to share share with you the best of the behind the scenes chats that we've done on the Kim Gravel Show. Check it out.

Kim Gravel:

Thank you for coming on the show. Low. We are now sisters. We are QVC sisters. Welcome to the sisterhood, honey, and get ready for the ride of your life.

Lo Bosworth:

I'm so excited. I was in Westchester a few weeks ago. Can't wait to be there again in.

Lo Bosworth:

A few days, girl, and we will.

Kim Gravel:

See each other and maybe we can go grab lunch and I'll buy.

Lo Bosworth:

I love that. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. Nice to meet you guys.

Kim Gravel:

I love it. All right. Thank you, girl. We love you.

Lo Bosworth:

Thanks, Kim.

Zac Miller:

Thanks, Lo. Just hang out for a second. Let me hit stop.

Lo Bosworth:

Sure. Of course.

Zac Miller:

Yeah. That was awesome. Thank you so much.

Lo Bosworth:

Thank you both so much.

Kim Gravel:

I lost my earpiece. Good Lord.

Lo Bosworth:

I saw it fall out once or twice.

Kim Gravel:

Can y' all hear me?

Zac Miller:

Get new.

Lo Bosworth:

These are new.

Kim Gravel:

I can't hear y' all either. Hold on.

Lo Bosworth:

Well, when she can hear me, I have a question and then I'll let you guys go on with the rest of your day.

Zac Miller:

Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. So this the main episode.

Kim Gravel:

I lost my earpiece, girl. It fell out and it's under the chair somewhere. I swear.

Lo Bosworth:

That's okay.

Zac Miller:

Can you hear me? Can you hear it on camera now?

Kim Gravel:

I Can hear out of my computer now. This one's not connected.

Lo Bosworth:

Kim, I have one question. What's your number one tip I should follow for on air?

Kim Gravel:

You wanna know the truth?

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Kim Gravel:

You have such a. I want you to just give me a hug. Like, to me just talking to you. I just want you to give me a hug around my heart and around my body and just go, it's all gonna be okay. You have got to tell your personal story about what you struggled with. And then you just have to be yourself. You are so calming. You are the perfect person to do.

Kim Gravel:

God knew what he was doing. I'm sorry. I'm a person of faith, so I'm just gonna tell you like it is. God knew what he was doing. Giving this calling to you because you are, like, for me, people be like, kenneth crazy. I ain't doing that. You are so believable. And so I don't wanna say, like, you're just so.

Kim Gravel:

You're a soft place to land.

Lo Bosworth:

Okay. That's nice.

Kim Gravel:

We need you. We need your spirit and we need your. We need your. We need your advocacy. Cause a lot of women don't feel empowered enough. It's not that they don't feel smart enough. I think women feel like. I think we all think.

Kim Gravel:

We know we're smarter than most, but I think we feel it's a little intrepidatious. There's a little fear there to step into this world. We know we're deficient in a lot of ways from a wellness standpoint. I mean, hello, McDonald's. I know Burger King. I mean, you know, as moms. And then we feel as women that we are, like you said, the shame. Because we're like, oh, we're eating like crap.

Kim Gravel:

That's why we feel like it's not that we don't know there's a problem.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Kim Gravel:

But we need an advocate to say, you can do this and try this.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Kim Gravel:

That's you.

Lo Bosworth:

All right. Thank you. That's really helpful. I appreciate it.

Kim Gravel:

I'm serious. I can't wait. Who's your host?

Lo Bosworth:

Mary Beth.

Kim Gravel:

Mary Beth Rowe. Oh, my God, girl. You can't handle the better host. She's getting ready to retire. Like, she. I mean, I just had three shows with her yesterday. Killed.

Lo Bosworth:

That's great. Yeah. We're really excited. I did my training with her, and I was. I saw her a couple weeks ago in person when I was there, so she's great. And then we have Pat the day before on qvc, too.

Kim Gravel:

I'm going to be Watching and I'll tweet out about it, Instagram out about it and all that. I don't tweet.

Lo Bosworth:

So kind. Really, we appreciate the support. We know what audience you have. So really, it's like such a big deal that you said yes to us doing the show.

Kim Gravel:

Truly, we're excited. Should I really start with the multivine? Like, tell me what person I need to start.

Lo Bosworth:

100%, yes. The multivitamin.

Kim Gravel:

Forget the show. I'm talking about me as a person.

Lo Bosworth:

No, truly, the multivitamin is truly incredible. Our PH balance cleanser is our intimate cleanser. It's for external use only, but it's fragrance free, glycerin free, paraben free, and it basically maintains vaginal ph, so you can practice.

Kim Gravel:

Does it help with the odor?

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah, yeah. Yes, it does.

Kim Gravel:

How important is it to have a wash that's different for down there than all over the world?

Lo Bosworth:

Oh, extremely important. Extremely important. Could not express that. It is so important, especially if you're susceptible to like, UTIs yeast infections. BV. It's incredibly important because those ingredients that I talked about disrupt the vaginal microbiome, which means that your ph gets throws out of whack, which means then you get an infection.

Kim Gravel:

Oh, wow.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Kim Gravel:

Count me. And I'll be watching. I'm going to try to call in and see if they let me in.

Lo Bosworth:

Thanks, that's so nice.

Kim Gravel:

Okay. And I promise I might say vajayjay. I won't say vagina. That's your next book. Jesus. Don't care how big your butt is, that's your next book.

Lo Bosworth:

I'll let somebody else write. You can write that one. You write it.

Kim Gravel:

We'll write together, girl. We'll co write it. All right. Bye, y'. All.

Zac Miller:

Thank you so much.

Kim Gravel:

Love you, girl.

Zac Miller:

Oh, my gosh.

Kim Gravel:

Jesus. Don't care how big your hind end is.

Zac Miller:

Oh, that is so funny.

Kim Gravel:

I'm telling you, it's so good. It's so true about what you're saying though. And can I just say, what did you call it? You called it micro what?

Dana K. White:

Micro niche.

Kim Gravel:

Micro niche, yeah. Can I just say, I've always had a hard time with that, like, how to find a micro niche, how to do. But it's so true. It really is a perfect like.

Dana K. White:

Right? And it feels like.

Zac Miller:

Did your light just go off?

Kim Gravel:

Sorry, she turned it. Turn it on. Just in case we want to keep a little bit of this in turn. You never know. You never know.

Dana K. White:

You're like, wait a minute. No, it feels like if you niche down. Right, Right. That you're not going to reach as many people.

Kim Gravel:

Okay.

Dana K. White:

The reality is when you try to reach everybody.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah.

Dana K. White:

It's harder to make a big impact on connection. Anybody. Right. You know, so.

Zac Miller:

Yeah.

Dana K. White:

So it's finding that, like, embracing. So this is the thing I'm writing about. Like, I'm writing about cleaning.

Kim Gravel:

Oh.

Dana K. White:

I'm not just writing about cleaning and organizing. I'm writing about it for the person who struggles. Okay. I'm not just writing about it for the person who struggles. I'm writing about it for the person who feels completely desperate, sparing and inept. You know? And the reality is, like, it still makes me laugh and boggles my mind when people are like, oh, no, no. I actually, you know, my house is great, but I still use your process because, you know, so it reaches more people.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah, but Dana, isn't it. Don't you. Because I find myself, like, totally into that kind of stuff. Like, I followed a girl on Instagram who just folded things.

Zac Miller:

Like, Kim has talked about this multiple times.

Kim Gravel:

I'm a psycho with this stuff. But this micro niche thing is. Dana, I don't know, this might be your third 17th book or whatever. I'm just saying, like. Cause I do. You know what I mean?

Kim Gravel:

She just folds clothes and I just watch her. You don't even see her face, just her hands.

Dana K. White:

Well. And I think, like you as a viewer, you know what to expect. Right. Which is the reason why, like, me writing a Jesus book is a departure. It is a risk. Right. Because people are not coming to me to hear about Jesus. They are coming to me to hear about decluttering and how to declutter when it's overwhelming to you.

Dana K. White:

And so that's part of it. But at the same time, I'm willing. It is you risk, you know, it is you. Yeah. But I also, like, that's one of the things I've learned over the years is, like, in the beginning, especially when I'd be like, oh, people like me. And then I would talk about something other than the thing they were coming for, and they'd be like, yeah, we'd like, they wouldn't say that. They weren't saying, we don't like you. We actually just like what you give us.

Dana K. White:

But at the same time, in reality, they like what I'm giving for them. You know, like, that I. I hear. Because what if what they're getting from me does that?

Kim Gravel:

My daddy always said that. He said, if you'll make it about other people, it'll be about you, because everybody's looking to fill that void. And now you're giving them just more. Yeah, yeah.

Zac Miller:

But it's a change.

Dana K. White:

Go ahead.

Zac Miller:

Has that changed over time, though? Like, you know, you've been doing this for a decade plus. Right. So you've had your podcast for a decade. People must feel like they are your friend at this point.

Dana K. White:

They do. They do for sure. And there are. You know, it's one of those, like, this is the. This is the group of people who are here for the decluttering and the people who are going to stay with me no matter what is, you know.

Kim Gravel:

Correct. It's your inner circle. Right.

Dana K. White:

Which is the reason why I'm thankful that God. I mean, he gave me this idea for this book because I was wanting to write about my spiritual stuff. I was wanting to write about faith and grace and all that. And then. And I was thinking that had to be, like, a complete departure. And then God was like, jesus doesn't care about your messy house. Like. Like, this is a way for me to still speak on the same subject that I'm known for and that people come to me for.

Dana K. White:

But the Jesus part of that, you know, so. So that's why. And also was very important to me to not. To not. Not use this platform that God gave me for this purpose, you know?

Kim Gravel:

Well, that obedience is. It's. How do I say this? It will be very fruitful and is so rare to see these days.

Dana K. White:

Well, you know, I would say my. My defining factors always have been my family.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah.

Dana K. White:

You know, like, if. If. If it's gonna hurt, you mess with my family.

Kim Gravel:

No way.

Dana K. White:

The answer is no. You know, like, I take summers off, which a lot of people.

Kim Gravel:

Oh, Dana, I gotta take a summer off.

Dana K. White:

Girl, you need to do it.

Kim Gravel:

I do.

Dana K. White:

You need to do it. And. And I actually don't get all the content ready and then keep running stuff over the summer. I literally say, see y' all in September, in May, and I just stop.

Kim Gravel:

Well, and it's good for your mental health, too. I'm on burnout so bad it's not even funny. And, you know, sometimes, Dana, when you're burnout, you just can't. There's nothing you can't pour from an empty cup, you know?

Dana K. White:

Exactly. And I feel like this is the reason I've been able to keep going for 15 years is because I just said no. And in the beginning, yes, I was worried that people wouldn't come back for the first, probably five or six years. It Would take me till October to kind of get back mid August and October. Now people are just.

Kim Gravel:

They look forward to it. Yeah.

Dana K. White:

And they know. And I get so many emails from people saying, thanks. You know, I wish you were still putting out content, but thanks for being an example of.

Kim Gravel:

I probably encourage other women to take care of themselves and. Really.

Dana K. White:

And could I make more money if I kept going? Absolutely. Sure.

Kim Gravel:

Well, it ain't about the money, but.

Dana K. White:

It can get to be about the money when you start taking money.

Kim Gravel:

Yes, it can. It can. But, girl, you've got a YouTube statue behind you. Okay, So I think.

Dana K. White:

I know.

Kim Gravel:

That's so cool. My kids would die.

Kim Gravel:

They'd be like, kim, you are.

Zac Miller:

Yeah, we're getting there.

Kim Gravel:

Well, this is the thing. We've got to do this again. I loved it. Love, love your message. And I love you. You're so genuine and authentic. You're so real.

Dana K. White:

Let's just talk. Let's, like, get on and just talk.

Kim Gravel:

We should. I'm telling you, this is the best part.

Zac Miller:

This is why we never hit stop after the credits. Cause there's always some extra little bit.

Kim Gravel:

Now, did you write under a ghost name or not your real name? Because you're always getting confused with Dana White, who's the UFC owner, and it's like the total opposite of you, Dana.

Dana K. White:

That's why I have the K in there. So in the beginning, I. I called myself Noni, which is short for anonymous, in the beginning. And so I love that.

Zac Miller:

That also means grandmother or grandmother.

Dana K. White:

Yes, exactly.

Zac Miller:

Yeah.

Dana K. White:

So when I. When I first wrote my first, like, ebook, and I put so much work into it, I was like, okay, I kind of want to use my real name now. Right?

Kim Gravel:

Yeah, Right.

Dana K. White:

And so I started using my real name. And then when I went to go see if I could buy danawhite.com, it redirected to the UFC. And I was like, oh, oops. I was like, I can't be that. But it's actually. It's kind of nice. So I always. That's why I put the K in my name.

Dana K. White:

It's Dana K. White. So that you can get it. So I always tell people, if you're going to Google me, Google Dana K. White. But it's nice because the people in my real life, they'll hear something about Dana, does this thing online, and so they go to Google me. They don't know to put the K in there. And so then it's hard to find me.

Dana K. White:

And so that keeps. It lets me still be A little bit anonymous.

Kim Gravel:

Anonymous.

Zac Miller:

I like that.

Kim Gravel:

There you go. I like that. Keren girl. I'm going to call you.

Keren Eldad:

That is not a threat, Kim. That is a delicious promise. I hope.

Zac Miller:

I want to call you too.

Keren Eldad:

Did you enjoy that too?

Zac Miller:

I loved it.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah, you are. I need, you know what I'm saying, not to make it about me. We're going to, for two seconds, go for it. I am at a place where it's not even a glass ceiling. It's just. I'm bored to death.

Keren Eldad:

No, you can't. Then you have to do something about it. Unfortunately, it's gonna cost you. In other words, when I sat before a coach in 2022 and I said, I don't know, like there's nothing wrong and Ryan and I have more than enough money and I can buy many cats as I want, right?

Zac Miller:

Do you have like 10 cats?

Keren Eldad:

No, my husband has cruelly limited me to only two cats, Zac.

Zac Miller:

Okay, your husband sounds like a reasonable man.

Kim Gravel:

He's a very reasonable.

Keren Eldad:

He's a very mean man. I. I said to her, there's no need for me to grow. And she goes, but don't you see? You're done here. You're done here. And what's happening is you're upper limiting. Have you read the Big Leap by Gay Hendricks?

Amanda Knox:

No.

Keren Eldad:

Mandatory reading. The Big Leap, Gay Hendry, you're gonna start to see that what you're really doing is just self sabotage. You gotta go. And in order to go, you have to go all in because you have to understand that the new phase of you is gonna cost you your old phase. Whatever Kim is operating at right now, I don't know, Superstar solopreneur. She's gotta die for the new empress to rise. And that's gonna be.

Kim Gravel:

It's not even fear. It's just exhaustion. Honest to God, it's.

Keren Eldad:

Take a break and then when you're done sleeping, come back.

Kim Gravel:

Okay, I'm gonna call you.

Keren Eldad:

Exhaust.

Kim Gravel:

What do you charge? What do you charge an hour?

Keren Eldad:

I'm very, very expensive. No, the first consultation is free. Don't worry about it.

Kim Gravel:

No, I'm gonna call you. I'm serious. I'm gonna call you.

Keren Eldad:

Very happy to help.

Kim Gravel:

I've got. I've got three. I've got me and my business partner and possibly hubby, and we are all just. And Zac, I might tag you on there too.

Zac Miller:

Tag me on.

Kim Gravel:

We're all just. We're at a place where God is calling us higher and bigger and to be Even more effective. I can't tell you the absolute ministry in our business that has taken place. And I know it's funny that you should say this.

Keren Eldad:

That's why I want you to do a second thing in addition to understanding why you're doing this and just going all in on yourself. Start filling your head with expanders. One of the expanders that kept coming to my head while we were talking was the great Joel Osteen. I don't care if you like him or don't like him. He's phenomenal at his job. Phenomenal. Truly outstanding. And when you start, When I start filling my myself with Esther Hicks and Joel Osteen and other like huge superstars who represent the next level, I go more readily.

Keren Eldad:

I realize I belong there. Just keep you resonate.

Kim Gravel:

It's like a brother or sister.

Keren Eldad:

You just know. You just know and then you let yourself go rather than self sabotage and keep yourself here. You just gotta go.

Kim Gravel:

Okay, well, I'm calling you, I'm emailing you. We're getting together.

Keren Eldad:

I look forward to it.

Keren Eldad:

Ya'll, this was a great joy. Thank you.

Zac Miller:

Oh, that was amazing, Amanda.

Kim Gravel:

Thank you, sweetheart. I just feel like we should go to dinner and just. I want to pick your brain about everything.

Amanda Knox:

Oh, I love having my brain picked. So please.

Kim Gravel:

You are just so natural. Now, do you consider yourself an introvert? Like, I'm curious.

Amanda Knox:

I, I don't know, actually, because it feels like at times I really get a lot of great energy from people. I love to talk to people, but I do end up getting exhausted and need to be left alone to think.

Kim Gravel:

You're so good at talking. First of all, you're so good. But I, I. So I would say if you are introvert, you're introverted extrovert.

Amanda Knox:

That's probably what it is. And I think my husband is the same way too, where he really likes to be around people, but he's often the like, cute guy in the corner who's like, not talking any and waiting for someone to notice him.

Kim Gravel:

That's hot.

Zac Miller:

That's how I think of myself.

Kim Gravel:

Just real quick before you go, because I know you want it. How did y' all meet? Was it like a weird thing? Like, I mean, he's like, there's Amanda Knox. She went to prison. I mean, like, how did that happen?

Amanda Knox:

So, great story. I was doing local correspondence for a local paper and I did a review of his debut novel and I wasn't ever planning on meeting him, but I went to his book Reading. Just because it just so happened to come out like, you know, the book reading was happening the day after I did my review, and I showed up at his book reading, and I asked him for an interview for the local paper. And he was not a versed in who I was. Like, he knew I was a person that people knew things about. He knew that I was connected to something scandalous. But he was a poetry guy. Like, he was not a true crime guy.

Kim Gravel:

He didn't do the hard nibs. Right.

Amanda Knox:

Yeah. So that's. That was not his thing. And so he got to know me. Like, we ended up having this interview, but then it turned into, like, drinking scotch and watching Star Trek and just, like, having a good time. And at the end of it all, he was just like, hey, we should be friends. That was super fun. And I was like, oh, my God, can I, like, be friends with people like a normal person? Of course you could.

Kim Gravel:

Well, I didn't know. I got it.

Amanda Knox:

I didn't know. So we were friends for a good nine months before we started dating. And then the rest is history.

Kim Gravel:

Oh, my gosh. You watched. With scotch and Star Trek.

Amanda Knox:

Gotta love which Star Trek.

Zac Miller:

Wait, so here's the question, though, Which Star Trek?

Kim Gravel:

WYou gonna go down that street? Well.

Zac Miller:

Cause there's a correct answer, and the correct answer is next gen, so she did it.

Amanda Knox:

I mean, there's. My other celebrity crush is Beta, so.

Kim Gravel:

Yes.

Gretchen Rubin:

Yes.

Kim Gravel:

And let me just say, on this show, we listen and we don't judge. Love it.

Gretchen Rubin:

There's too much judgment in the world.

Zac Miller:

No.

Kim Gravel:

Much. It ain't the truth. Amanda, we love you, girl. Come back. Gretchen Rubin. But you're so relatable. And like I said, you just have this magic about you. I wanna be your best friend.

Gretchen Rubin:

Well, thank you. I love this conversation. I feel like we could keep talking all afternoon.

Kim Gravel:

We could. We could. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. Let's do it again.

Zac Miller:

That was great.

Kim Gravel:

I love you.

Zac Miller:

Thank you so much. Yeah.

Kim Gravel:

Seriously, you're so great.

Gretchen Rubin:

Well, you're an amazing interviewer. You made it so easy and fun. I really, really enj. And I love that story about your son. That's a very beautiful story. I feel like I need to ponder the layers of that.

Kim Gravel:

I thought it was very heartening. I've always known he's a little. He's a little bit ahead of his time in a lot of ways. So it's been. It's been. And he's very popular in his school. He just Won most wittiest. And all this, which I don't see at all.

Kim Gravel:

I can't even. I mean, he ain't even funny in the house. I don't know. I mean, that was out of the. But he knows how to adapt in a way that. Cause we live in a really small country town and you know, Bo's been all over the world and you know, so he has learned how to get in where he fits in, you know, kind of thing. And it's just been so profound to watch him grow into. I never knew he was that.

Kim Gravel:

I don't know, I can't describe it. Yeah, I mean, he's a smart kid for sure, but it's not like just book smart. He's okay with the books when he applies itself. But it's, it's, it's, it's this intuitive, it's this discernment that he has that is off the charts. It's like, okay, there's something there to that. Uh huh.

Gretchen Rubin:

No, I, the logic.

Kim Gravel:

Just the, just the. It was big.

Gretchen Rubin:

Oh, I love that.

Kim Gravel:

I had to let him go. I was like, you can go. So sorry.

Zac Miller:

I was just gonna say thank you. We're big fans. I really, I like your podcast. I've liked your podcast for a long time.

Kim Gravel:

Oh, that's so nice.

Gretchen Rubin:

Yeah, thank you.

Zac Miller:

So.

Kim Gravel:

But Gretchen, did you really, did you really honestly and truly like just walk away from law altogether? Just dropped it and said bye?

Gretchen Rubin:

No, there was a date. So my husband was. We met in law school and we sort of left law at the same time. Well, this is very questioner, so you'll know, you'll understand. So we get, we're in. We get our notices that it's time to pay our bar fees. So to be, to be in member of good standing in the New York bar, we had to like pay. And it's expensive.

Gretchen Rubin:

It's not like 50 bucks. And I said to him, should we pay our bar fees? And what did he say? Of course he said, why would we pay our bar fees? And I'm like, I guess we're doing this. And then we didn't pay our bar fees. And you know, we got. And of course we have found out later that all you have to do is like pay your back dues and they'll re. You know, you can get back in. But at the time I thought, oh, wow, we're really leaving. Yeah.

Gretchen Rubin:

So we, yeah, we both left at the same time.

Gretchen Rubin:

And I never went back for sure.

Kim Gravel:

Wow, wow, wow.

Zac Miller:

Because you were on track. I Mean, like, you were like, you could have gone to the Supreme Court.

Zac Miller:

I mean, with your resume, it seemed like. Right.

Kim Gravel:

Did you want to be a Supreme Court judge or.

Gretchen Rubin:

No, that was. Part of it is I was like, well, I would not want to do this.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah, well, part of it.

Gretchen Rubin:

Well, you know what? This is like, I was surrounded by people who loved law. They loved it. They wanted to talk about it all the time. They would, like, all constantly talk about cases and everything. I'm like, I want to do a great job, but. But I don't want to spend one more minute on it than I had to. And I'm like, I can't compete with these people over the long term. They love it.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah, well.

Kim Gravel:

You. I mean. Yeah, I just. It sounded. I just don't have a job anymore. I used to have a job. Now I have, like, a life that I love, and doing what I love. I don't like it all the time, but I do love it.

Gretchen Rubin:

Right, Right, right, right, right. The opposite of a perfect next book.

Kim Gravel:

You got to come back with the empty nester. You got to come back.

Gretchen Rubin:

Oh, I can't. Yeah, no, that's going to be super fun.

Zac Miller:

Thank you, Bree, you can stick around.

Kim Gravel:

For a second of the best episodes ever.

Zac Miller:

I love this.

Zac Miller:

The fact that you open that banana, like, seriously.

Kim Gravel:

I'm serious, Bree, you've got. You've got something with this message. You really, really do. Yeah, It's. For such a time as this. It's. People need this. Yeah, we need.

Bree Groff:

We need that connection.

Kim Gravel:

Right?

Bree Groff:

Like, we need to have some place where we can do that.

Kim Gravel:

So you keep this message going, girl, and be fun. You're so much fun. You make it so easy.

Bree Groff:

No one else, no other podcast has asked me to peel.

Kim Gravel:

Even Imagine. That's the crap that goes viral. That's the fun stuff about people. Like, people. People will listen to you because of that. I'm not. I mean, it's just. It's not taking yourself so seriously, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bree Groff:

That's exactly it.

Kim Gravel:

You're amazing. I'm a fan.

Zac Miller:

That was amazing. And honestly. And, Bree, can I just say, like, your writing is brilliant. Like, you're. You're a phenomenal writer.

Kim Gravel:

She's smart girl, that girl. Yeah, she's so smart with that. I'm not that smart. I'm just loud and. Hey, that's my thing. No, you.

Kim Gravel:

But you are. You are.

Bree Groff:

I see the Legally Blonde Harvard.

Kim Gravel:

Like, it's hard. Like, it's hard Anybody can do it. You got enough money and you know people. I tell people all the time. I said, my son says, oh, my God. Because he was like, his grade point average. So I said, go out there and negotiate your grades. He goes, you can't do.

Kim Gravel:

I said, yeah, you can go in there and negotiate them. It's whatever they want to give you.

Bree Groff:

It don't matter.

Kim Gravel:

There's no, like, gray police. Yeah, that's a human. Took him from a B to an A in his statistics class his senior year because he was gonna fail. Yeah. I love it.

Bree Groff:

Oh, that's so very clueless, too, right? Didn't she go negotiate her grades?

Kim Gravel:

Just negotiate. That is the story of my life. Total idiot. Bumping into crap wearing glitter and faux fur. Pencil. I can do it. Anybody can do it. But it's so good.

Bree Groff:

But that's why you're magnetic. That's why people like. Because people want to be around.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah, but what you're saying is being who you are, that you're. You're really saying what it's all about. It's authenticity, period.

Kim Gravel:

Because there's nobody on the planet that can be like you. No. No. Can peel bananas with their feet, but not like you.

Bree Groff:

We're going to start a club. Whoever these people are.

Kim Gravel:

Oh, that's going to go. If you don't think that's showing up on social media, get ready.

Bree Groff:

I sure hope it does. I'm ready.

Zac Miller:

You should have a whole. You could have an entire series where you give work advice, like, doing different things with your feet. And it would. It would hit on many levels. You would get a very diverse audience, I think, for that.

Kim Gravel:

Oh, my God. Right? So talk about the feet, people. What made me excited was that was the only rapid fire question that was really instantaneous. Like, you were just like, yep, know exactly what it is. I can peel.

Bree Groff:

Celebrities do that. That trips me up a little bit.

Kim Gravel:

But, yeah, I knew.

Bree Groff:

I knew what my skill set is.

Bree Groff:

I know how I bring value to this world.

Kim Gravel:

That's it. All right, girl. Well, come back and be with us.

Bree Groff:

I'd love to. Would love to.

Zac Miller:

Thank you, Bree. We wish you all the success. Like, really. You deserve it.

Kim Gravel:

Keep in touch, Bree. I'm going to follow you on all your socials. I don't even know what Slubstack is, but I'm gonna figure it out.

Zac Miller:

I didn't put your Instagram. It doesn't seem like you're that active on Instagram unless I start.

Bree Groff:

I've never really done Instagram before, but now I have a social media person who's helping me be like, social.

Zac Miller:

Okay, well, we'll put all your handles and stuff in the show notes and everything too, so.

Kim Gravel:

Yeah. Awesome. Okay.

Bree Groff:

That's so good.

Zac Miller:

Okay. Of course.

Kim Gravel:

Thank you, Bree. Be blessed, Daryl. Bye. 

Kim Gravel:

Zac Miller is the Executive Producer of the Kim Gravel Show. His production company is Uncommon Audio. Our Producer is Kathleen Grant, the Brunette Exec. Production help from Emily Bredin and Sara Noto. Our cover art is designed by Sanaz Huber at Memarian Creative. Our show is edited by Mike Kligerman. Our guest intros are performed by Roxy Reese. Our guest booking is done by Central Talent Booking. Our ads are furnished by True Native Media. And y'all, I want to give a big huge thank you to the entire team at QVC+ and a special thank you to our audience for making this community so strong. If you are still listening then you must have liked a few episodes along the way. So tell somebody about it. Tell somebody about this show and join our mailing list at kimgravelshow.com. I cannot do this show without you and so I thank you from the bottom of my heart for listening. I hope you gain a little bit of encouragement, light and love love from watching and listening to The Kim Gravel Show. I love you all so much. Till next time. Bye.